comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment byokero swing from the Chandelure • Additional comment actions. Bibarel is god tier HM Slave. ago. Cacturne has always been my favorite Hoenn grass type. Bibarrel. But none of these are flying types obviously. Azumarril learns Dive, Surf, Rock Smash and Waterfall while hitting hard with Dive and Waterfall. R. Ispamedthis-name • 4 yr. It was the first appearance of the Pokémon series on the Nintendo DS, marking the true beginning of the next generation of games. The player lost the nuzlocke and is now continuing. Tropius lvl. Board Topics. KillerFugu • 4 yr. Tropius can replace Ziggy later on as it can also learn Fly. Since those aren't easy to get, you should just have two HM Slaves. The two together can cover everything, and each of them on their own can learn quite a few. Stuff like Azumarill, Gyarados, Tentacool, etc. Pokemon Violet IGN: Tuba. Mew, Smeargle, Tropius. 2 Ludicolo. Page 2-3rd Gen emerald monotype challenge Previous GenerationsSee the discussion at PokéCommunity!Debating whether or not to replace Tropius with Mespirit. 1 Crawdaunt. ago. Drifblim - Col. . A samurott can learn all the HMs except fly. I've since learned (with some googling and also via this thread) that there are other good choices for HM slave, too, and that Tropius can be used legitimately with the right moveset. >_> And don't say "lol 4x Ice weakness". ago. The best HM slave combo is: Tropius-Cut-Fly-Strength-Rocksmash Psyduck-Surf-Dive-Waterfall-Flash I was wondering is Tropius any good in game? meh. RhydonAvailability is the most important thing for a good HM slave. ago. Getting a Bidoof to level 15 or catching a Bibarel is cake work. - Rayquaza_man7. Bibarel is the easiest to obtain, and it can learn Cut, Surf, Strength, Rock Smash, Waterfall, and Rock Climb. Wich combination of two pokemons should I use so they can get all the HMs? I also want to avoid Bibarel, Tropius and Gyarados, because I used them in Platinum and I want something different. Quagsire (Flash, Headbutt, Whirlpool, Dig) 3. Callista08 7 years ago #2. The dashing dinosaur has a decent enough HP stat too, as well as a banana beard that honestly makes me a bit jealous. BANANYAN was Patterrz's starter, & his main Pokémon during the run, later joined by Kenya the Magmar. OK not a LOT less. Personally I use Tropius as a slave since it can also learn Sweet Scent to spawn Hordes. It gets cut, flash, rock smash, strength, and fly. Fantastic. (Not all of these are HM moves but they are still useful for inside caves!) Give Raichu Flash, Dig, Rock Smash, and Strength. HM slaves aren't necessary to progress, but the water HMs feel necessary to have fun. Sign in with the following networks. I saw a similar set up for gen 4 between tropius and wailmer. The only Hoenn Pokemon who might make a better HM mule than Ludicolo is Crawdaunt. Sharpedo, as an HM Slave, could learn all the water HMs along with Strength and Rock Smash. " - Malcolm X. HM Slave. There are many combinations of just two Pokémon that can cover every HM. Fretka Disabled: User Name Change Posts: 6068. Business, Economics, and Finance. I use two as of 4th gen, Bibarel and Tropius. May 15, 2012. Tropius's egg groups: Grass, Monster. Bibarel and Tropius. Dk bout other gens but Gen I you can do Slowpoke/bro and Farfetch’d. Waterfall- Goldeen and Seaking can already learn it. of course i don't. If you're still waiting for the e-mail, be sure to check your junk/spam e-mail foldersIf you're still waiting for the e-mail, be sure to check your junk/spam e-mail foldersI got lucky enough to get a Tropius through GTS Negotiations for a female Eevee I caught in Castelia City. 310 votes, 40 comments. Herpes the Clown is a very Itchy Fellow. Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others. For a throwaway HM slave? Wingull is a lot closer. Now I have to find a way to cover every type in 4 Pokemon. Wingull meanwhile is 'nearer' in R120 or within Lilycove itself, and the OP's original statement was: "I need the NEAREST Pokemon that can learn fly". Whirlpool. . Attacks. Gyarados, zigzagoon/linoone, bidoof/bibarrel, tropius, and even samurott. Business, Economics, and Finance. Board Topics. Let's be real, Zigg is hands down the best HM slave. This is the place for most things…For Pokemon X on the 3DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Tropius=Best HM Slave in the series. good hm slave. WhiteBladeMarth 12 years ago #2. - The amount of grinding you. Both learn Cut, Strength, and Rock Smash. Get a Bibarel and Pelipper. Tropius. After that you can just dump the rest of the HMs on Tropius or Linoone, and it's easy enough to breed/train a new Gyarados for the post-game if that tickles your fancy (or just use the move deleter). Bibarel is probably the best HM slave in. Tropius needs fly and defog while Bibarel needs waterfall and surf. Who are the Hm Slaves in this game? Pokemon Emerald Version Game Boy AdvanceBidoof/ Bibarel is a common HM slave. He could work, just watch out for ice attacks. Notify me about new: Guides. The HMs were once again changed in this generation - HM06 was changed from Whirlpool to Rock Smash, and HM08 Dive was added. It has Pickup too, so that convinces me to keep it as an HM slave and a Pickup slave. and i dont use defog because it is not necessary to use it to complete the game. I plan to buy the Ocarinas for the other HMs (Flash, Waterfall, Dive, etc) so only one of my pokemon slot is reserved to the Tropius slave. Having those 2 pokemon is enough to navigate through the game. The hm slaves are one type of creature in this category; they assist their trainers in navigating the world and accomplishing tasks. 1. Psyduck Surf Flash Waterfall Dive. View. even if your grades are bad, it doesn't mean you're failing. He receives STAB on Strength, and Surf In-Game is a funny way to defeat Rock/Ground types without wasting Earthquake TM26 on Tauros. Bibarel and Tropius, perfect synergy of HM slave. Wailord (HM slave and Heal/Switch sacrifice) Tropius (Cut and Heal/Switch sacrifice) Open slot until I can get Umbreon. Such a Pokémon doesn't exist, of course, but this means that Pokémon closer to this ideal are the best. I. Any sites that say they can are using old information. I haven't tried evolving my non-shiny Bidoof and HM'ing. Assy ass ass assington. or create a new account Register; Sign in with:Aerodactyl can learn every HM in the game except Rock Climb, and Golduck can learn every HM except Cut and Fly. Don't remember, but I'm pretty sure that I rotated my sixth member on Gold depending on where I was traveling. hyahyahyahya • 4 mo. Best HM slaves? Thread starter hlzwalkie; Start date Apr 12, 2007; 1; 2; Next. For just the land based HMs, dwebble/crustle get an honorable mention. Ispamedthis-name • 4 yr. Make a note that Tropius cannot be found at Night (20:00-03:59). You could try Skarmory with Cut/Fly/Rock. Strength. Use Flash to light up dark caves and use Dig to easily escape caves without using an escape rope! Hope I. CryptoTropius is cool, but it's not exactly the best stat-wise. I don't have the national 'dex yet, so I can't transfer over a Tropius from my Sapphire so I can have an HM Slave with Fly and Defog. For a throwaway HM slave? Wingull is a lot closer. Tropius cannot be obtained in Pearl outside the Pal Park. ago. . I taught it Strength, Fly, Cut, and Flash. Basically, the most useful HMs that’ll come in handy throughout your journeys. Please don't mention mew, I don't have one, but any two that are great HM slaves would be much appreciated thanks. Reply5. Nidorina or Nidorino and Dragonite are also. It can learn Cut, Fly, Defog, and Rock Smash. Teach him Sunny Day and Solar Beam. The Pokémon fandom developed the term "HM slave" for creatures you don't really intend to train, but who occupy a slot in your roster for their field-navigating HM (Hidden Machine) techniques. Optimally, Tropius is given some type of stab move -Giga Drain is a good choice-, substitute to take advantage of free (if going first) substitutes 50% of the time -100% of the time if under sun-, Roost for easy instant recovery and weakness reduction, and a coverage move of some sort. i recommed bibarel, ferret or linoone for cut, surf, strength, rock smash & whirlpool (HGSS) where bibarel is the most usefull HM slave because he can also learn waterfall and rock climb. "Why isn't there a briefcase with four million dollars in bearer bonds handcuffed to your drinking arm?"Like a thought parasite. Especially Strength, because once you push in a boulder, it stays in. It learns a whopping 6 HMs: Waterfall. Of the four lines, I like the Furret line the best as a bottom line, though the Bidoof line is better at being HM slaves. . I'm using empoleon as a hm slave in my next run xD. If there's an EXP Share like XY then it'll be easy to level him up. To carry 8 HM moves at once, the best HM slaves are Tropius and Swampert. However, Tropius is probably the best HM slave because it learns Cut, Fly, Strength,. Basculin can learn surf, waterfall, cut and dive. My gut says that Tropius is somewhere in there. Joined Jan 14, 2006 Messages 126 Reaction score 0. Depends on the game, really. They just need to make him Grass/Dragon already. Can you guys tell me which pokèmon is a good HM slave for early/middle/end story mode? ty in advance. "Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery. DRAGONITE used BARRIER! shinryu_omega 7 months ago #5. The two together can cover everything, and each of them on their own can learn. Bunches of delicious fruit grow around its neck. You'll never have to use stuff like Strength, Cut, Waterfall, or Dive after fully exploring the right areas. Tropius can get any combination of Cut, Fly, Strength, Flash, and Rock Smash. This is my favourite HM Slave because it works great in conjunction with. Tropius together with any of a large number of water Pokemon. . Gum-Gum Gummi Ship: Blueprint Active! "The show where everything's made up and the points don't matter! Let's have some fun!" RaikouTGC 13 years ago #3. For the other HMs get a Wailmer. Urvilan • 2 yr. Azumarill can learn the 3 water HMs (Waterfall, Surf, Dive), Rock Smash, and Strength. ago. Curiously, I tend to think of Tropius as an HM-user before any of these. I use a Munchlax with the pick up ability and the HM moves Strength, Surf, Rock Smash, and Rock Climb. Tropius, Bibarel, Gyarados: Excellent HM slaves Gallade @ Wide lens - Hypnosis, Swords Dance/Taunt, False Swipe, Mean Look: IMO best catcher Pokémon around Smeargle w/ Technician @ Silk Scarf - Belly Drum, Spore, False Swipe, Mean Look/Taunt/Cosmic Power: Another good catcher (though not as good as Gallade)0. Otherwise, nope. mister72 14 years ago #6. . For Pokemon HeartGold Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Tropius". It can be an interesting wall with it's hidden ability restoring berries, but it's not a GOOD pokemon in a battle sense. Examples of ones that will do: Sharpedo, Crawdaunt, Psyduck/Golduck. Strangely enough, there’s one other Pokemon in the series that learns Cut without needing an HM, largely because this Pokemon debuted after the developers removed HMs from the series. Swampert: Strength, Surf, Waterfall, Rock Climb. 2. linoone - strength, cut, rock smash tropius - fly, secret power wailord - dive, surf, waterfall MarioGalaxyR0X 9 years ago #7 Tropius/Golduck is actually an excellent combo: Tropius Fly Cut Strength Rock Smash Golduck Surf Waterfall Dive Flash TROPIUS AND CHANDELURE!!!!! Yes! I am so damn pumped! Goodra is also a great choice! I am meh on Intelion. (Part 19) Pokémon Platinum - Galactic Battle - Cyrus #1 [] Although not seen at all this episode, it is asumed that Tropius was in the party at this time since it was present in the part in the previouse part and the following part. In ORAS, I've used a Linoone. But if you're not a fan, Roserade is pretty strong as well. Its moves are all HMs. Emerald_Melios 7 years ago #9. Dragonite can learn all HM's except flash. Skarslave. if you have access to sinnoh and trading, definately these 2. I never hold more than 1 HM slave with me. For Pokemon Platinum Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Better than Tropius?". #5. However, Tropius is probably the best HM slave because it learns Cut, Fly, Strength, Rock Smash, and Flash (all the non-water HMs). Whatever the choice, don't be that guy who constantly switches Pokemon in and out the PC every time you need to use an HM move. Syleafid also outclasses this Bananasaurus tremendously, as well. Maurith 14 years ago #16. My main HM slave is my Diamond starter, Empoleon. Tropius is exclusive to Platinum; if you only have access to Diamond and/or Pearl, you can't get it. I usually don't have an HM slave. The only HM moves worth using in competitive battle are Surf and Waterfall. Miruhog and Doyruzu can learn 2 - Cut, and Strength. Sharpedo is objectively the best. The Temporary HM Slave is for Fly and Defog until you can get a Tropius from Pastoria's Great Marsh (Areas 1 & 2). Bibarel can learn them all except Fly and Defog, and paired with a Tropius or Skarmory, all 8 can be covered. around 150 threads have been lost dating back to 2007 and some weeks ago so we can't roll the forums back. 5M subscribers in the pokemon community. Later on if you catch a Tropius, use that as an HM slave as it can learn HM. Anyways, I think there COULD be a lot less HM's. You can catch Bibarel early in the game. And Chinchou. But it seems tropiua ia not here? Any suggestions for Slaves? Currently on Pokemon League on the first region. You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. MegaMagnetar • 10 yr. R. gbchaosmaster #3 (message deleted) gbchaosmaster 15 years ago #4. MegaButterfree 7 years ago. Besides, Tropius isn’t useless mechanically; it’s a viable “HM slave,” apparently carved a niche for itself within Pokémon GO’s competitive circuits, and has found some ground within Scarlet & Violet’s, which is nice. I don't remember which games the Skarmory and Tropius are best for because I think it was game specific due to HM changes, but they work great. or create a new account Register; Sign in with:best hm slave(s) in this game; Dwhite_1 8 years ago #1. Tropius is among my favorite HM slaves, but my Meganium was a beast going through the HG/SS metagame recently. . Tropius: Cut, Fly, Strength, Rock Smash, and also the TM Flash which is very useful. Tropius - Defog, Fly, Strength, Rock Smash. Do you guys usually keep your HM slaves with you and only fight with 4 good pokemon and then use the other 2 just for HMs? Mario Maker 2: SteveKoopa: ID 6K7-PR2-TWG Smash Ultimate Mains: Samus, Lucas, Jokerwhat's a good HM slave for this game? I prefer one the know cut, strength, fly, and Rock Smash/ Flash. You find Tropius on 119, before you have the Fly HM or even access to the badge to use it. As Fly Users go, only Tropius and Salamence are non-legendaries that learn at least 4 HMs. But he still looks awesome. 101 Speed is really solid, ties. Surf is on my water pokemon (Lapras). Staravia (lvl 22): Defog, Fly. Absolute truth. From Lilycove, Tropius requires backtracking through R120 > Fortree City > R119. No one has mentioned him but I use Diggersby as my HM SLave and he does work. For Pokemon HeartGold Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "HM slave". You really don't need a HM slave, just give every Pokemon 1 HM each. You will need to breed a female Tropius with a compatible male Pokémon, with the male (for Gen 2-5) knowing the egg move in question. Bibarel - Cut, Surf, Waterfall, Rock Climb Tropius - Fly, Strength, Defog, Rock Smash But it looks like with a different HM05, I'll have to change their movesets slightly: Bibarel - Surf, Whirlpool, Waterfall, Rock Climb Tropius - Cut, Fly, Strength, Rock SmashDragonite. I really don't see the problem. The best HM slave combo is: 1. Tropius has Strength, Cut, Fly, Rock Smash. Giratina (lvl 70): Strength Waterfall. 4M subscribers in the pokemon community. "One does not sell the earth upon which the people walk. around 150 threads have been lost dating back to 2007 and some. How about a regional form? Nibounium • 4 mo. Tropius - cut - fly - flash - strength/rock smash Water Pokemon - surf - dive - waterfall - strength/rock smash *Means that they don't get strength or rock smash, but they get another HM (Tentacool - cut, Chinchou - flash) that Tropius can also learn so Tropius can double up on strength and rock smash and the water can use the other HM. Since the TC is actually going to use Tropius, I don't see what the HM slave sets have to do with the topic at hand. My Crystal version Krabby has: Surf. I saw a similar set up for gen 4 between tropius and wailmer. Don't listen to anyone saying Tropius or Skarmory. Defog. Wow, an intelligent question on my pokemon boards? Damn, I might just have to help you. HM Slave switches in and out of the team. however for utility reasons a grass type w/ sweet sent might be called for So Oddish would be a good choice or Tropius as an HM slave per Eon flute. It has fairly balanced stats with it's only decent ones being HP and Sp. Mooj_Starfury 15 years ago #6. Anyone know of an easily accessed hm slave that can learn cut and fly? (And defog too, but it ain't a big deal) I know tropius can learn both, but it comes kind of late in game I thought staravia could, but apparently not. Sessy UNoT Extreme Mooomber Posts: 2349. . It can learn Surf, Strength, Rock Smash, and Cut. Well, since you don't need the HM slave for the elite 4, I'd say replace it with your best boxed pokemon, and grind everyone up to around level 56 - 58. One word. Those would be Skarmory and Tropius at level 1. You can't take a 4th HM, but having Pickup as an ability helps out. linoone - strength, cut, rock smash tropius - fly, secret power wailord - dive, surf, waterfall MarioGalaxyR0X 9 years ago #7 Tropius/Golduck is actually an excellent combo: Tropius Fly Cut Strength Rock Smash Golduck Surf Waterfall Dive FlashTropius!!!! My favorite HM slave in-game. " Element-17 Tropius + Tentacool also have all 8 HMs and Golduck much rarer than Tentacool. More so than Altaria does. My main HM slave is my Diamond starter, Empoleon. Tropius was the GOAT HM slave back in Gen 3, but has fallen into obscurity since. ---. I may be slightly biased, though, since Trop is part of my tentative fun run. For Pokemon HeartGold Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "breloom any good in comparison to Tropius?". Missingno evolved into Kangaskhan. It becomes a full-fledged HM boss. This Pokédex. I like Golduck because he can learn almost every HM. Questions. It's always nice to have an ability that works outside of battle on a pokemon that you wouldn't dream of battling with. You could probably start with Zigzagoon. . There were a good handful of changes and improvements made for Diamond, Pear. Use him ingame as a sunnybeamer and he'll do fine. Favorable grass-typing so you can deal with the huge number of water-type pokemon running around everywhere. (n. ChronoMitsurugi. The best Pokémon is one who is obtained at the start of the game, can OHKO enemies off the bat, and only loses 1 HP when damaged. Now usually Tropius and Gyarados are enough. Surf, Strength, Cut, and Rock Smash. Defog (Japanese: きりばらい Fog Wipe) is a non-damaging Flying-type move introduced in Generation IV. Tropius needs fly and defog while Bibarel needs waterfall and surf. Gyarados as an HM slave on this game is disgraceful. . i use tropius and wailord. that's about it. 1. Other good HM slaves include Bibarel, Tropius, and Skarmory. What are the two best HM slaves, like 2 pokemon that can use all the hms between them and what are the best places to find them at?. Iceman93x 7 years ago #3. 19. This is my favourite HM Slave because it works great in conjunction with almost any water Pokemon. Pure water Samurott is just a really good add to your team anyway, and the water HMs are strong in battle, so you might as well use. Other than that I think the rest are interchangeable. CeruleanGamer 8 years ago #5. Notify me about new: Guides. In my opinion, Bibarel and Skarmory/Tropius are the best HM Slaves available. roflcopter9001 • 9 yr. Aerodactyl - Cut, Fly, Strength, Rock Smash Golduck - Surf, Whirlpool, Waterfall, Rock Climb You can't get Aerodactyl until after the Elite Four, but you also don't need Rock Climb until Mt Silver. Bibarel and Tropius can learn all of them between the two. "Welcome to Bururaji! This is Ragna the Bloodedge, Sugita Tomokazu! HARDCORE! HARDCORE!" - Sugita Tomokazu, BlazBlue Radio. #10. but why the hell do you even care about the evs/nature of your fricken hm slaves edit:stefywefy beat me to that . The two cover every HM. We usually use this as an HM slave, but it's actually quite useful. Named him Traveler. Lugia (I have a few, I use one that has Surf and Fly), Onix (has the odd TM too I think), Linoone (with pickup). Few pokemon get access to Cut, Fly, and Strength/Rock Smash at the same time, and even fewer can also access Flash or Sweet Scent. A more practical solution is a combo of Farfetch'd (Cut/Fly) and Pikachu (the other 3). Below are all the Pokémon from Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald with the HMs they can learn. I was curious about what it would evolve to. Open menu Open navigation Go to Reddit Home This is a famous water-type HM slave that evolves from Psyduck and, in Heartgold, comes in handy because it’s available virtually everywhere and can make all HM moves except for cutting. This is why we need HMs back. This is NOT a signature. I usually use him backed up by a Gyarados, Wailord or something similar. SolidOrochi 13 years ago #8 Tropius @ Hat Fly Defog Cut Rock Smash / Strength Bibarel @ Choice Band Rock Climb Rock Smash / Strength Surf Waterfall Now go and beat your friends. 3rd Gen Dex. 0. though tropius works, as well as a few others. The Pokemon Database has this awesome chart that can be used to find "HM slaves". The 15 Best Pokemon To Learn Cut. Stay metal my brothers and sisters!!! m/. I'm against a separate list for HM-slaves for that very reason. Those two between them can use every HM, I think. You really don't need a HM slave, just give every Pokemon 1 HM each. Cheats. Anyways, there are only 6 HM moves this game. I want Tropius to have a use again so I can just use my old Mew as an HM slave again anyway. Yeah, it's not very useful in battle with those moves, but as long as you have Pickup it's a constant source of items that you can, at the very least, sell. The two together can cover everything, and each of them on their own can learn quite a few. Go. Locked post. Overall, Tropius is a better Flying HM slave, with access to 5 HMs, Flash, and Sweet Scent; however, Drifblim is the best Flying HM slave you can get early on in-game in Sinnoh. jonosaurus • 9 yr. 2. i used him in emerald by acident. This is a topic dumping on Tropius, but honestly, I think this topic is failing to appreciate what a true failure of a Pokemon Tropius is. Bibarel (Cut, Waterfall, Surf,. Tropius is a great HM slave. no evolutionary family, no Mega, no legendary, third-gen release only. Simple as that, just post about your best or most common HM slaves you used or are currently using. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Tropius isn't as accessible, you can get bidoof on the first route and I don't think you can get tropius in diamond/pearl at all. Few pokemon get access to Cut, Fly, and Strength/Rock Smash at the same time, and even fewer can also access Flash or Sweet Scent. it's the internet >_> - ILikeDesu. In Gen 4, Tropius: Cut, Defog, Fly, Rock Smash. ". Neither Tropius nor Lapras are good for Competitive Battling. ". Staravia (lvl 22): Defog, Fly. 12. I found Linoone quite useful as a HM slave, with the Pick-Up ability as a bonus. you ev train you hm slaves? well tropius and bibbarel are good tropius: fly, defog, cut, i forgot. Relicanth: Honestly I agree with this one, it has utility as an HM slave and has a couple decent physical attacking options but it's definitely not good and comes late. Bibarel+Tropius get all HM's. Bidoof: Cut, Rock Smash, Strength, Rock Climb (I think) Yamata_Demon14 years ago#8. Children of the southern tropics eat as snacks the fruit that grows in bunches around the neck of TROPIUS. Together they can learn everything and, unlike Skar and Trop, they aren't rare and can be obtained before the E4. Tropius is in the Great Marsh. TengYt 14 years ago #15. Open comment sort options Best; Top; New. 4. Defog. 1 Kartana. Cut. As for HM slaves, Bibarel and Tropius can learn all 8 combined (Tropius - Fly, Defog, Cut, Rock Climb / Bibarel - Surf, Waterfall, Strength, Rock Smash).